tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29834831.post3934198748884324462..comments2024-03-29T01:45:16.921-07:00Comments on Daniel's Pacific NW Garden: Recovering Old Bean Seeds. 6.15.16Daniel Wachenheimhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/11009166706587141830noreply@blogger.comBlogger7125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29834831.post-65094609398473476702016-06-28T09:54:50.198-07:002016-06-28T09:54:50.198-07:00I hope you friends liked the gorilla seedlings!I hope you friends liked the gorilla seedlings!Daniel Wachenheimhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11009166706587141830noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29834831.post-1546841123790750572016-06-25T22:55:52.231-07:002016-06-25T22:55:52.231-07:00I agreed on the deformed ones. Yeah, old seeds ha...I agreed on the deformed ones. Yeah, old seeds have more single first leaves then the fresh seeds. I hate to waste any seeds and I only saved seeds from parent plants that looks healthy. I've more lost from slugs and coon. He just won't quit, and have not find a bait that will work for the trap. I sometimes give away to fellow gardeners who never save any seeds. I've so much seedlings that I gorilla planted them at my friends' plot; they guessed it was me anyway:-olancehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03657961543274999017noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29834831.post-20956799426811365322016-06-21T20:54:45.487-07:002016-06-21T20:54:45.487-07:00p.s. I also sprinkled Sluggo around the seedlings...p.s. I also sprinkled Sluggo around the seedlings that I planted out. And they are fenced in, against the damn deer and rabbits. I want these beans to grow.Daniel Wachenheimhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11009166706587141830noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29834831.post-57456089894251214612016-06-21T20:51:35.017-07:002016-06-21T20:51:35.017-07:00You and I both, seed hoarders. They do show a lac...You and I both, seed hoarders. They do show a lack of vitality. Some also look mutated, with missing first leaves, or the first real leaves are distorted. Most look fine, healthy and ready to grow. Of course, that's of the germinated seeds, which is less than 20% of the bag.<br /><br />I wonder if abnormal plants will grow out of that, or maybe need to go to seed then the next generation will be more vigorous? Only way to find out is to try and see. I plan to set aside enough beans to ripen and dry out, to get a good batch of fresh seeds for next year.<br /><br />If there is mutation in the stored seed, it should be random so some are mutated in one way, and others not mutated, and others mutated in another way. Maybe while growing, the abnormal cells will fizzle out, while cells that mutate back to normal will take over. Some variegated plants do that, so the non-variaged back-mutation takes over and grows more vigorously than the variegated original.<br /><br />If lack of vigor is due to oxidized fats or depletion of nutrients or vitamins, then I would think that the growing plant would make normal nutrients and vitamins, and after making a few leaves would be back to normal. That's only a guess on my part.<br /><br />Or, the mutated plants will fizzle out, while the remaining normal plants will make seeds for the next generation.Daniel Wachenheimhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11009166706587141830noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29834831.post-74419468538955688622016-06-19T10:11:46.583-07:002016-06-19T10:11:46.583-07:00Wow this gives me hope. For a seed hoarder, I hav...Wow this gives me hope. For a seed hoarder, I have a lot of old seeds. I think the bean seeds show signs of lack of vitality around 3 yrs in storage. I notice the "skin" will be rather hard so the cotyledon won't able to open. I use my fingers to peel away the covering and the seed will able to germinate. I have more seed lost due to mice and slugs then low germination rate. lancehttps://www.blogger.com/profile/03657961543274999017noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29834831.post-43788112932648968022016-06-15T21:18:03.120-07:002016-06-15T21:18:03.120-07:00Forgot that critical detail! They are somewhere a...Forgot that critical detail! They are somewhere around 15 years old. No date on label, but I recall that we grew some them the first or second year at our Vancouver house, and that was 2001. Daniel Wachenheimhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/11009166706587141830noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-29834831.post-66286698297391142782016-06-15T21:03:12.023-07:002016-06-15T21:03:12.023-07:00How old were the seeds that you were using?
https:...How old were the seeds that you were using?<br />https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AJFHfPEKQYM ( me foraging in the forest ) Lostboyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07803257645018823755noreply@blogger.com